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Toyota & SunHydro Fuel Cell Vehicle Trials In U.S. This Fall

allcarselectric.com -- Many think the infrastructure for hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicles just isn’t there, and they’re mostly right. There have been a few advances in hydrogen production recently, but the distribution system is the weak point. However, there are companies, such as SunHydro, which are helping to change all that and are even partnering with major automakers to help accelerate the development and eventual commercialization of hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicles.

SunHydro is the world's first chain of privately funded fueling stations that provides hydrogen to fuel cell vehicles and produces its fuel using just solar-power and water, meaning it is a true zero emissions source.

The company ..partnered with Toyota and will be commencing trials of ten Toyota Advanced Fuel Cell Hybrid Vehicle

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Submitted Sep 04, 2010 By: teafortwo

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,272 Points:1,143,275 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 6, 2010 7:50:14 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse the more alternatives to fossil fuel there are the better we can move to an energy less-dependent situation. Energy independence? Doubt we will ever achieve that.
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:4,706 Points:1,656,770 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 6:56:55 PM Ignore remay Report Abuse The more the better...
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,272 Points:1,143,275 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 7:45:18 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse hauler45: what are you asking? H2 is already in some fleet vehicles and they all have been very safe.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,272 Points:1,143,275 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 7:43:25 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse we need to find alternatives to drill baby drill. Because we don't have the oil forever. Yes, there is a finite amount, and with the ever increasing appetite for fossil fuels, we'll run through it much faster than it can be produced.
EricON Veteran Author Ontario Posts:344 Points:638,290 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 7:40:58 AM Ignore EricON Report Abuse I like it
runout9 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,154 Points:960,650 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 1:00:10 AM Ignore runout9 Report Abuse That's the way guys, get these young minds working & solving our problems. Go for it.
teafortwo Champion Author Washington Posts:15,373 Points:924,275 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:15:21 PM Ignore teafortwo Report Abuse "Though the FCHV-adv has lot of technology in it, from outside it looks like normal highlander crossover vehicle with normal driving capabilities, though it weights more than a standard Highlander."
kkimes All-Star Author Illinois Posts:685 Points:1,094,230 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:03:40 PM Ignore kkimes Report Abuse "I'm sure it'll be priced too high & ugly to boot." Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Affordability relates to the size of your wallet. Some can afford it, others not.
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:4,716 Points:982,400 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 4:25:10 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse LIkewise, teafortwo. Good luck with those trials.
teafortwo Champion Author Washington Posts:15,373 Points:924,275 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 1:56:33 PM Ignore teafortwo Report Abuse I am glad to know that someone is still working toward hydrogen for transportation.
Fitwit Champion Author Stockton Posts:4,370 Points:943,800 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:43:56 AM Ignore Fitwit Report Abuse I like it. Just be sure you thank The Son and worship Him and do not become a sun worshipper.
MUSTANGSRUS Champion Author Ontario Posts:7,389 Points:1,509,070 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:21:28 AM Ignore MUSTANGSRUS Report Abuse What do they consider affordable? There is a big difference between what I consider affordable and what Bill Gates consider affordable. [Edited by: MUSTANGSRUS at 9/4/2010 10:23:39 AM EST]
msgt_usa Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,107 Points:539,015 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:20:23 AM Ignore msgt_usa Report Abuse Hydrogen is the way to go. Very clean burning and once hydrogen production is worked out will be the best possible way to go.
1988MR2guy Champion Author California Posts:4,424 Points:717,690 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:04:30 AM Ignore 1988MR2guy Report Abuse I've never STOPPED having confidence in Toyota. You see, you should never "trust" ANY car manufacturer, or any other manufacturer for that matter. "Trust" and "confidence" are two entirely different things, even though they may be related by the fact-sets that generate, or inhibit, each.
pnd1 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:4,268 Points:858,120 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:02:43 AM Ignore pnd1 Report Abuse This sounds like good news, but I'm not ready to trust Toyota.
hallows Champion Author St. Louis Posts:2,325 Points:2,351,120 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:59:26 AM Ignore hallows Report Abuse I'm sure it'll be priced too high & ugly to boot.
Long_gone Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,653 Points:460,145 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:57:21 AM Ignore Long_gone Report Abuse One step in the right direction.
Tutootin Champion Author Toronto Posts:7,766 Points:2,613,455 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:51:34 AM Ignore Tutootin Report Abuse My opinion is that you will never recoup the added investment for the technology at this point in time.
Diesel_Ram Champion Author Dallas Posts:4,227 Points:1,056,280 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:50:42 AM Ignore Diesel_Ram Report Abuse Sounds good.
hauler43 Champion Author Oakland Posts:7,146 Points:2,356,055 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:49:53 AM Ignore hauler43 Report Abuse The car might be affordable, but what about when it comes time too fuel up?
jony Champion Author Florida Posts:5,234 Points:1,246,175 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:49:20 AM Ignore jony Report Abuse what a really neat idea
satrn38mpg Champion Author Raleigh Posts:2,872 Points:614,660 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:48:05 AM Ignore satrn38mpg Report Abuse thats all well and good but at what cost ???
reb4 Champion Author Chicago Posts:13,190 Points:1,356,840 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:44:57 AM Ignore reb4 Report Abuse key word from toyota is "affordable".. What exactly is that number?
biza4u Champion Author New Haven Posts:6,187 Points:1,166,910 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:42:32 AM Ignore biza4u Report Abuse Keep moving ahead with hydrogen production and refueling stations
no_monkey2002 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:6,223 Points:1,622,825 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:41:17 AM Ignore no_monkey2002 Report Abuse bring them on now
Kato51 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:5,337 Points:1,772,425 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:40:30 AM Ignore Kato51 Report Abuse Let's hope it works.
ifallsguy Champion Author Minnesota Posts:4,430 Points:1,214,755 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:38:36 AM Ignore ifallsguy Report Abuse this may work were they build lots of stations, but not in rural america
TAT36 Champion Author Florida Posts:4,438 Points:846,470 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:36:57 AM Ignore TAT36 Report Abuse Looks simple, tie everything up. Build the cars, sell the cars, service the cars and put the refuelling stations in your dealerships. A company that does this will cover all bases and will find it hard to fail. If our car companies here would use this model they could build vehicles that run on most any kind of fuel. Their dealers could also serve as fuelling stations since most of them have dealer ships in most cities and towns. The only problem would be crossing the mountains or deserts where the sigh says no fuel for the next 200 miles.
jayrad1957 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:14,580 Points:1,130,365 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:36:39 AM Ignore jayrad1957 Report Abuse Hope it works.
cableman31 Champion Author New York Posts:6,579 Points:1,569,420 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:34:58 AM Ignore cableman31 Report Abuse Fuel cell is the way to go. Like anything new your probably talking 20 years or more but in the longrun I think it will be worth it.
BillHeatherL Champion Author Alberta Posts:5,335 Points:1,479,380 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:34:37 AM Ignore BillHeatherL Report Abuse still a long way to go
lindact Champion Author New Haven Posts:6,492 Points:1,271,485 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:31:42 AM Ignore lindact Report Abuse Hope my clunker holds out until one of these is viable & affordable.
techque Champion Author St. Louis Posts:6,378 Points:1,992,635 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:29:20 AM Ignore techque Report Abuse Nowhere is stated how long it takes these charging station to split off enough hydrogen using solar power alone to fuel up the average car.
harleydoctor Champion Author Kansas Posts:4,975 Points:1,462,585 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:29:06 AM Ignore harleydoctor Report Abuse Maybe so, but I still say BE AMERICAN-BUY AMERICAN.......
CLM06 Champion Author Tampa Posts:6,841 Points:1,496,065 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:25:33 AM Ignore CLM06 Report Abuse Each day brings us closer to complete independence
Buffalo Joe Champion Author Alberta Posts:7,448 Points:2,075,125 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:24:42 AM Ignore Buffalo Joe Report Abuse Private money invested! Its about time somebody has the incentive to do something without a handout from the Government.
VTROCK Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,582 Points:644,455 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:21:28 AM Ignore VTROCK Report Abuse Fuel cell cars might be ready for prime time in about 10 years.
rogerparry Champion Author Florida Posts:7,209 Points:1,451,030 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:21:25 AM Ignore rogerparry Report Abuse Good news. Keep the innovations coming.
Rick01 Champion Author Utah Posts:6,644 Points:1,910,265 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:21:24 AM Ignore Rick01 Report Abuse Get 'er done!
tankneverfull Champion Author Charlotte Posts:6,374 Points:1,301,065 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:19:08 AM Ignore tankneverfull Report Abuse With the amount of conversation going on I am hopeful this will actually start producing great results.
MightyDude Champion Author Minnesota Posts:7,964 Points:2,182,820 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:18:14 AM Ignore MightyDude Report Abuse Excellent Are there risks involved? Of course it comes with new innovation
rsm315 Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,174 Points:310,035 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:17:49 AM Ignore rsm315 Report Abuse Let private companys do this NOT MY TAX DOLLARS
ILANGE9 Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,195 Points:1,132,725 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:17:26 AM Ignore ILANGE9 Report Abuse More taxpayer funding and government subsidies in the future for us.
DieselKat Champion Author Tennessee Posts:2,612 Points:1,863,845 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:17:20 AM Ignore DieselKat Report Abuse Privately funded, what a concept!
SpruceGuse2 Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,447 Points:2,000,680 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:15:37 AM Ignore SpruceGuse2 Report Abuse We are still innovative........
Jamer Champion Author Orange County Posts:6,397 Points:1,178,360 Joined:Jul 2002	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:15:28 AM Ignore Jamer Report Abuse Only time will tell how this turns out.
Asbury09 Champion Author Iowa Posts:4,978 Points:1,071,705 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:15:14 AM Ignore Asbury09 Report Abuse this is a start we need to keep the government out of it
chemist74 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:12,382 Points:2,178,090 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:13:35 AM Ignore chemist74 Report Abuse It is going to be very difficult to get this to work economically (without large subsidies). In order for the refueling stations to work economically there needs to be a lot of hydrogen fueled vehicles in the area but there are not quite a few hydrogen refueling stations in an area it does not make sense to buy a hydrogen fueled vehicle.
flyfast Champion Author Kansas City Posts:7,020 Points:1,369,210 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:13:16 AM Ignore flyfast Report Abuse NEED MORE THAN ONE
jimraehl Champion Author Utah Posts:4,760 Points:1,176,510 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:12:22 AM Ignore jimraehl Report Abuse Not the way to go, unless hydrogen on demand is used.