1006

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Birmingham
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 7:59:37 AM
the future
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StArrow68

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 4:27:55 AM
AC-302, you are off by a factor of 3. Last year reported lists about 32k fatalities in the US due to collisions. The markets are very comparable. Bluebird, surprised you listed the passive safety systems but left out stability control, an active system probably preventing more accidents rather than just allowing more to survive.
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andpren

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:31:10 PM
What they do not tell you is what else they will use the data for.
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Ticobird

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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 6:46:41 PM
These types of driving aids need to be implemented so that the driver is not inundated with too much information. I'm sure in time personal transportation will be a lot safer and these times we're living in will look simply barbaric to those 100 years from now.
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doctorindyj

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Santa Fe
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:42:11 PM
A lot of this stuff just replaces what the driver should be doing anyway. As others pointed out this seems like it just allows people to become lazy and unfocused drivers.
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CostEngineer

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:37:47 PM
More safety is always good
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idigau22

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Washington
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:33:26 PM
Wow! Intelligent Vehicle Systems! Soon the teenie boppers can Text or Yak on the phone while driving without fear! Adults too!
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CCLighthouse

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:27:41 PM
cricket48750 I guess you will be the one taking it, right?
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cricket48750

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:04:33 PM
We need more mass transportation.
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Bud122CA

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California
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 12:50:58 PM
Not to much different here in America. Driver error
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NorthglennBill

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Denver
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 12:22:49 PM
All this new science and technology and they still haven't fixed the loose nut behind the wheel yet.
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bluebird1

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 12:18:33 PM
I'm with the like of Budster, its more mkting than science & engineering - as this is a biased lot wanting to sell more electronics on vehicles. It provides no detail or even hint of logic in statements - like ACC & collision warning systems save 3-7% on fuel consumption & not factoring in reduced congestion. HOW??? I can understand if avoid accidents then you save idling fuel of all the cars needing to pass it. ACC does not mean you're travelling slower & Fr. collision warning just means your stopping faster than if driver was paying attn far enough ahead. Other than blind spot warnings, very few of the new tech. actually will have the impact of seatbelts, crush-zones, air-bags or even ABS (which by the way didn't reduce accidents for yrs after they came out for some reason-likely driver error).
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BudsterMO

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 12:05:57 PM
Shoot, I thought this article was actually going to say something definitive. But NOOO, just more coming soon or which comes first the chicken or the egg. This consumer thinks the way we market and engineer needs to be majorly changed.
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cssco

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 12:02:18 PM
There goes the fun of a Sunday afternoon drive in the country. Nothing is sacred with hi tech removing the joy of living. The best part is that everyone shows up for muster on Monday morning...well, except for those who drank out of 32 ounce cups in NYC and they are in jail.
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AC-302

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 12:00:04 PM
Wow! Over 30,000 people a year die in Europe on the roads? Gee, we're down to like 10,000 in America. I realize the EU has a larger aggregate populatino than the US, but it's not 3X that of the US. That says to me that cars and roads in Europe are far more dangerous than those in America.
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CivicMA

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Boston
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:56:55 AM
Sounds good, but I want to CONTROL my driving.
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Minutefan

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Springfield
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:55:40 AM
i like the part about improved fuel efficiency, but I don't like the part about abdicating thinking to a computer.
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DarthDadJr

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:55:22 AM
Benefits sound good...but how much more will this all add to the cost of the car?
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SUV2009

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:55:20 AM
Ok
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bicycler

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:55:14 AM
Jmac2008; I find the Euro findings interesting forcing me to think the system over again. I beelieve that we tend (me too) to view newness as badness.
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2granny

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:54:51 AM
What happen when there is a glitch in the system? Drivers need to be responsible and pay attention to driving and not on cell phones.
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Insuremn

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:51:48 AM
I'm waiting for the car to drive itself.
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LoadToad

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:51:17 AM
Just remember with computers "garbage in - garbage out".
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ExplodingGlass

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Maine
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:51:15 AM
robot cars
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nskmda

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:48:50 AM
don't think computerized systems are smart... not smarter than software engineers
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preacherjohn

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Modesto
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:48:34 AM
try inattention, cell phone usage & other things as the reason for inattention.
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hwmillerster

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:48:16 AM
A milestone on the way to self-driving automobiles.
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Jmac2008

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:47:52 AM
anything that makes driving safer is good.
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Gassed01

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:46:40 AM
People do stupid things while driving. They do stupid things, period.
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mrreferee

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Savannah
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:46:09 AM
can they find a system for stupid drivers?
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masker5900

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Mobile
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:45:36 AM
Take out the stupid human element and there will not be anyone that can drive.
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hibsaw

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:43:53 AM
Some drivers need ALL the help they can get.
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Red7002011

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:43:43 AM
Do the right thing.
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rasprout

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:43:26 AM
It gets into do these systems report or are they systems that just assist drivers...
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VernonOR

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:42:59 AM
Yes, sarose.....Would like to know the total cost to implement this.
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I10Express

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:42:11 AM
smart cars, smart phones, stupid people
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LJGP_MO95

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:42:02 AM
The sooner a car can drive you to work the better we'll all be.
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MRHONEST

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:41:53 AM
Sounds good
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LtRTH

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:40:07 AM
Technology can be a good thing. Just shouldn't get too reliant on it.
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MrLuigi

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:39:43 AM
those are some unreal numbers...
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sarose

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:37:47 AM
Stop driving on the autobahn and reduce traffic accident deaths.
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LocalSpyGuy

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:36:00 AM
How much will this cost?
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tpguess

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:35:08 AM
Technology in our Acura MDX saved out life... I know it works
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livewire300

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:33:15 AM
We'll see..
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IMLURCH

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:32:12 AM
it might help but you will never remove all human factors.
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prius22

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:31:48 AM
Costly to fix down the road I'm sure.
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q2

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:31:01 AM
Taking the chlorine out of the gene pool.
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meg1561

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:29:57 AM
Hope it works.
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Mariuxus

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:29:54 AM
ok...
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trekmanKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:27:34 AM
Ohkay!
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