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Report: Western refineries made gas during price spikes

USAToday -- Research released Thursday shows West Coast refineries continued to produce gas even though told they were temporarily shut down, leading to price spikes in May and October.

The report, based on environmental documents reviewed by McCullough Research, finds that gas supplies were building in May, when West Coast drivers paid at least 50 cents more than the national average.

Californians were walloped by the October spike, blamed partly on an August fire at the Chevron refinery near San Francisco: about 66 cents per gallon more than historical patterns and inventories.

The study writes that "though California is the focus, the conclusions carry national implications, especially because they highlight how little real information on pricing is publicly available, or available to regu

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Submitted Nov 15, 2012 By: MidNJ

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teafortwo Champion Author Washington Posts:22,375 Points:1,412,000 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 2:52:22 AM Ignore teafortwo Report Abuse Interesting points Currency Pro from Vancouver. Definitely something to think about. Of course, the industry spin doctor is always ready to spew a fresh load of industry propaganda. These industry types have convinced themselves that if they just keep telling the same lies ... Thing is, we are so on to what a bunch of liars they are. They know they are lying. We know they are lying. Oil & gas is a dirty, greedy business run on lies, deception & industry generated hype. Time for some change that is based on legitimate science and legitimate facts.
Currency_Pro Veteran Author Vancouver Posts:409 Points:101,590 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 2:16:26 AM Ignore Currency_Pro Report Abuse I love so much how Gasbuddy on social media and elsewhere were rationalizing the spike in Gas prices back then. It was clear to me then and even more clear to me know that Gasbuddy has an investment in the oil market. And of course, we are STILL to believe those companies like Gasbuddy and MJ Mervin and the so called oil analysts rationalizing the oil company's spike in Gas prices.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,667 Points:1,229,200 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 10:32:40 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse In this article the California law makers have nothging tio do with this spike in Gas. It is clearly greed, manipulation, and profit for the Big Oil companies driving this.
frostyWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,339 Points:519,235 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:59:08 PM Ignore frostyWV Report Abuse just shows how bad news effects gas prices.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,174 Points:1,755,920 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:57:50 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse this is news?
nemoFL Champion Author Florida Posts:8,936 Points:1,637,000 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:57:28 PM Ignore nemoFL Report Abuse as ever
Dragnet Champion Author Arizona Posts:15,548 Points:2,934,510 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:55:10 PM Ignore Dragnet Report Abuse Liberal Calif always pays more because of the corrupt government in that state.
THX138 Champion Author San Francisco Posts:2,650 Points:1,037,955 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:55:02 PM Ignore THX138 Report Abuse So?
repeater1 Champion Author Topeka Posts:8,442 Points:2,393,500 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:54:50 PM Ignore repeater1 Report Abuse Even if they were on their last leg, they would refine all of the gas they can until the price comes down and then nothing would get refined.
Jmac2008 Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,411 Points:907,865 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:54:15 PM Ignore Jmac2008 Report Abuse just more Gouging by the oil companies.
fenster66 Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:3,485 Points:700,815 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:54:10 PM Ignore fenster66 Report Abuse interesting...
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,181 Points:866,235 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:54:08 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse Why would there be a spike in price if the market was awash?
nomad228 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,143 Points:580,215 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:52:40 PM Ignore nomad228 Report Abuse dont' trust big earl any further than i could kick em with my bum leg.now maybe californians will park their vehicles on the main roads and see how fast the gov'ment reacts to lower prices around the world. :)
nru Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,950 Points:1,010,795 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:47:48 PM Ignore nru Report Abuse An oil company lie to you??? You must be kidding - they should be allowed to regulate themselves too.
TheSnowstorm Champion Author Montreal Posts:8,724 Points:1,939,905 Joined:June 2005	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:42:39 PM Ignore TheSnowstorm Report Abuse More corruption and greed at play.
ACTown Champion Author Oregon Posts:2,353 Points:1,450,925 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:41:13 PM Ignore ACTown Report Abuse The bad thing was they lied about it and used it to gain more profit.
rd2000 Champion Author Florida Posts:3,712 Points:714,695 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:39:38 PM Ignore rd2000 Report Abuse All down to greed
bigdipperMS Champion Author Mississippi Posts:1,541 Points:550,130 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:39:03 PM Ignore bigdipperMS Report Abuse Welcome to the wacky world of California. These people are determined to tax and spend their selfs out of existence.
gd83goldwinger Champion Author South Bend Posts:1,428 Points:519,230 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:38:45 PM Ignore gd83goldwinger Report Abuse Heres another art. that why are gas prices going up.
MG_Sputnik Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:7,434 Points:1,987,595 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:38:18 PM Ignore MG_Sputnik Report Abuse Your mean they were lying? How dare them?
SteveSeattle All-Star Author Seattle Posts:554 Points:174,085 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:37:58 PM Ignore SteveSeattle Report Abuse Stop/reduce driving & take public transportation are the ways to beat high gasoline prices.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,745 Points:3,519,480 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:36:30 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Big Oil and Big Government in collusion to squeeze money out of the average citizen (government gets increased revenue without calling it a tax).
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:35:00 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse gAs prices have gone up in minneapolis.
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:34:33 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse NOBAMA AND HIS CRONIES WILL GO DOWN IN TIME.
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:33:58 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse Thann why is gas at the pump higher?
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,618 Points:1,739,185 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:30:13 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse Not following regulations
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,446 Points:1,558,085 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:27:48 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse The price of living in California but it will soon fall into the Pacific, so prices will not matter.
shari128 All-Star Author Iowa Posts:573 Points:879,415 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:27:23 PM Ignore shari128 Report Abuse I'm sure they did, and we paid the price!!
Azimuthal Rookie Author Hamilton Posts:32 Points:123,530 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:26:55 PM Ignore Azimuthal Report Abuse This affects all of us1
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,705 Points:1,539,830 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:26:50 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse sad
REKEY Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,718 Points:1,726,120 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:15:59 PM Ignore REKEY Report Abuse Tax that refinery!
Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,524 Points:444,225 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:14:55 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Oh no!
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,920 Points:845,010 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:14:41 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Glad I don't live out west...
regasaz Champion Author Phoenix Posts:5,779 Points:1,300,035 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:14:07 PM Ignore regasaz Report Abuse Another reason to avoid California if possible.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:8,052 Points:1,600,730 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:12:46 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse Unfortunate for CA
fieldt Champion Author Lansing Posts:4,055 Points:755,800 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:10:28 PM Ignore fieldt Report Abuse Sorry California.
JCI46009IN Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,129 Points:439,570 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:08:26 PM Ignore JCI46009IN Report Abuse Big Oil sucks!!!!!!
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,265 Points:1,514,580 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:08:20 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Manipulation of the market to increase gasoline prices? When has that ever happened?
LQQKGAS Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,770 Points:1,222,675 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:06:19 PM Ignore LQQKGAS Report Abuse Manipulation! Monopoly! Corruption! Greed!
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,439 Points:625,320 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:05:28 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse hmmm msm didnt report this right?
TXGasPriceSpy Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:7,957 Points:1,499,975 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:05:06 PM Ignore TXGasPriceSpy Report Abuse You can have CA.
firefly09 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,613 Points:740,105 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:03:58 PM Ignore firefly09 Report Abuse No Kidding???
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,894 Points:2,493,530 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:02:55 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse Really?
walkingtall Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,134 Points:1,148,405 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 10:58:43 PM Ignore walkingtall Report Abuse Who is to blame here?
gass12 Champion Author Omaha Posts:8,528 Points:2,331,395 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 10:57:19 PM Ignore gass12 Report Abuse This isn!t the 1st time they lied to us.
GDAE Champion Author Wichita Posts:1,290 Points:248,600 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 10:56:44 PM Ignore GDAE Report Abuse And yet they say there's no price fixing.
jackster111 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,537 Points:453,035 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 10:56:22 PM Ignore jackster111 Report Abuse figures that they would do something like this
toadNY Champion Author Albany Posts:7,188 Points:1,540,850 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 10:56:09 PM Ignore toadNY Report Abuse The only way for the middle class is to be come one of the 47%.
preacherjohn Champion Author Modesto Posts:4,096 Points:1,943,310 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 10:55:03 PM Ignore preacherjohn Report Abuse So what are you gonna do about it?
Bleeder Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,038 Points:1,718,475 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 10:54:36 PM Ignore Bleeder Report Abuse Prices are still way too high.