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Oil price falls while gas prices are rising

Journal Sentinel -- The price of crude oil has fallen sharply on world markets in recent days, usually a signal that the cost of gasoline will be coming down soon, too.

Maybe not this time.

As crude oil futures were falling, the price of gasoline futures was rising Wednesday amid relatively tight fuel inventory and an explosion at a refinery in Canada that is a big supplier of gasoline to the U.S. East Coast.

"We've got crude oil going down and gasoline going up," said Jim Ritterbusch, president of Ritterbusch and Associates, an oil trading advisory firm just south of Wisconsin in Galena, Ill. "People will see on the evening news that crude prices dropped below $90 a barrel today and they will think that's going to equate to lower pump prices, and that's not going to happen, unfortunately."

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Submitted Sep 27, 2012 By: angel4me

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BigRedVTX All-Star Author Georgia Posts:850 Points:499,055 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 11:01:28 AM Ignore BigRedVTX Report Abuse Seems the law of supply and demand has been broken a number of times of late.
BudsterMO Champion Author Kansas City Posts:3,690 Points:699,930 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:51:42 AM Ignore BudsterMO Report Abuse You can thank Wall Street speculators for this unnatural cost to price disparity.
fuel2use Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,468 Points:729,325 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:49:53 AM Ignore fuel2use Report Abuse Does not make sense to most.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,976 Points:1,109,385 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:48:07 AM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Face it folks Big Oil has us right where they want us... They make big profits controlling the supply...
Tomeboy Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,749 Points:556,090 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:45:16 AM Ignore Tomeboy Report Abuse Consumer three times a loser. Supply and Demand: When supply of gasoline drops and demand goes up, prices rise. When supply of gasoline drops and demand remains the same, prices rise. When supply of gasoline drops and demand drops, prices rise. Big Oil... We get you coming and going... Have a nice day!
schvanda63 Champion Author Lansing Posts:1,304 Points:261,825 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:44:56 AM Ignore schvanda63 Report Abuse "...and an explosion at a refinery in Canada that is a big supplier of gasoline to the U.S. East Coast." Planned or "accidental". Anything to keep the prices higher.
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FortVancouver01 Champion Author Washington Posts:1,160 Points:284,495 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:38:24 AM Ignore FortVancouver01 Report Abuse It is called price manipulation, which is usually illegal and called price fixing in most industries but Congress seems to have exempted big oil.
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packards42 Champion Author Washington Posts:6,425 Points:1,124,590 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:35:35 AM Ignore packards42 Report Abuse WHy do the doomsayers alway take a negative take on crude price dropping.
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OnEmptyMO Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,974 Points:1,484,675 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:32:55 AM Ignore OnEmptyMO Report Abuse Does not make sense at all.
PFCASTA Champion Author Worcester Posts:1,095 Points:1,571,905 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:32:33 AM Ignore PFCASTA Report Abuse QUICK TO RISE SLOW TO FALL
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,917 Points:2,341,510 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:32:32 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Oil price falls while gas prices are rising? This is nothing new! Isn't this what oil prices and fuel prices have been doing for a long time now! Oil prices are down and fuel prices at the pump are up! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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bbthegun Champion Author San Diego Posts:5,968 Points:1,677,415 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:32:04 AM Ignore bbthegun Report Abuse What a bunch of crap! Build more refineries already!!
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bridgerunner Champion Author Virginia Posts:4,767 Points:1,002,835 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:31:33 AM Ignore bridgerunner Report Abuse I have not seen any rational explanations for this.
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