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Lights, cameras, reaction: Resistance builds against red-light cameras

NBC News -- A rarity 15 years ago, red light cameras have become ubiquitous in many U.S. cities. Communities in 24 states and Washington, D.C., now use the cameras. Supporters say it’s worked. Cameras now monitor speed, bus and HOV lanes and intersections with stop signs.

But critics of red light programs worry about the Big Brother aspect. Many also say cameras, which are generally run by private companies, have spread not because they make streets safer, but because they mean profit.

Recent news stories have fueled opposition. In Chicago, the mayor banned one company from bidding for future contracts. In Iowa, doubts about the constitutionality led to a bill to ban cameras – a move already taken by at least 9 other states.

FHA says that cameras shouldn’t be a knee-jerk traffic enforcement

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Submitted Feb 19, 2013 By: Nicoalbum

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LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,671 Points:1,230,030 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:28:28 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Your right...it is all about the money!
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,898 Points:619,445 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 7:26:06 AM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse Profit is the correct answer.
yardslave Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,702 Points:625,480 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 5:54:45 AM Ignore yardslave Report Abuse Ok...
millerin Champion Author Orlando Posts:2,332 Points:487,315 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 5:30:06 AM Ignore millerin Report Abuse cameras help
SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,369 Points:344,185 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 2:32:47 AM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse There are too many things wrong with these camera programs. Get rid of them!
JuicyQ69 All-Star Author San Bernardino Posts:661 Points:1,164,005 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 1:40:54 AM Ignore JuicyQ69 Report Abuse ?Otra vez?
Fitwit Champion Author Stockton Posts:6,528 Points:1,379,980 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:50:32 AM Ignore Fitwit Report Abuse Lights, cameras, reaction: Brilliant article title.
wshokie12 Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:1,460 Points:244,260 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:24:34 AM Ignore wshokie12 Report Abuse Really?
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,105 Points:2,551,690 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:24:04 AM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse too many pockets to fill
DisMusBeDaPlaz Champion Author Tampa Posts:2,550 Points:595,870 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:21:07 AM Ignore DisMusBeDaPlaz Report Abuse All I can say to this is to check your state's statutes (laws & legalities) for your defense, when charged with a violation.
kgbellman Champion Author Ann Arbor Posts:2,859 Points:760,515 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:20:50 AM Ignore kgbellman Report Abuse They might save crashes or fatalities, but too many issues and corruption
Mr_Bill_W All-Star Author Virginia Posts:586 Points:380,460 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:15:57 AM Ignore Mr_Bill_W Report Abuse The disturbing Orwellian prognostications of 1984 are coming to fruition and it's likely to get worse long before it gets better and nothing is likely to improve in this arena for the next 47.33 months...
SaturnSC Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,056 Points:857,600 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:15:19 AM Ignore SaturnSC Report Abuse no kidding
Rageagainsttm Champion Author Tampa Posts:8,427 Points:1,928,860 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:15:17 AM Ignore Rageagainsttm Report Abuse I'm not for them.
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,863 Points:416,650 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:13:58 AM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse It is all about the money.
gasmack Champion Author Ventura Posts:1,752 Points:679,840 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:13:41 AM Ignore gasmack Report Abuse Integrity is key to all problems with these systems and their operators.
Ray_10589 Champion Author New York Posts:5,086 Points:1,211,435 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:13:23 AM Ignore Ray_10589 Report Abuse Big Brother ....
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,639 Points:1,538,755 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:11:18 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse I wonder what FHA has to do with local traffic enforcement, other than generating revenue.
CCLighthouse Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,136 Points:239,675 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:11:12 AM Ignore CCLighthouse Report Abuse One more time... Beware of shortened yellow lights! Sssnnnaaaag!
gasmack Champion Author Ventura Posts:1,752 Points:679,840 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:11:12 AM Ignore gasmack Report Abuse Integrity is key to all problems with these systems and their operaators.
silverfoxv65 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,623 Points:1,257,450 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:10:39 AM Ignore silverfoxv65 Report Abuse I wonder where it all will end up.
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,626 Points:2,130,690 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:10:10 AM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse I am not in favor of 'red light' cameras.
Tigercat88 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,342 Points:645,540 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:10:06 AM Ignore Tigercat88 Report Abuse Red light cameras are just a Government Scam.
Bill100 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:41,756 Points:1,191,520 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:09:12 AM Ignore Bill100 Report Abuse I have noticed only a few around town here. But there are likely more I simply have not noticed. But I never hear any talk about them, aside from through GasBuddy.
ClassicWheeler All-Star Author Montgomery Posts:790 Points:336,350 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:08:06 AM Ignore ClassicWheeler Report Abuse Responsible driving has gone by the waist side and something has to be done. I don't like the cameras either, but I am worried that drivers are not able to follow the law. I think it is actually a problem with the fact that there are too many lights out there and we seem to be stopping at every light. I get that it seems.
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:8,041 Points:1,571,970 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:06:25 AM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse Profit is always in the equation.
obimerrill Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,585 Points:318,390 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:05:08 AM Ignore obimerrill Report Abuse Definitely...not good if they are just another revenue stream for the politicians!
mlmeng Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,780 Points:619,285 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:05:08 AM Ignore mlmeng Report Abuse Profit first and foremost. Any safety is an added benefit.
Vitobug Champion Author El Paso Posts:1,979 Points:663,190 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:04:47 AM Ignore Vitobug Report Abuse Have these cameras made our streets safer?
yyc2yow All-Star Author Ottawa Posts:787 Points:597,845 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:02:34 AM Ignore yyc2yow Report Abuse go for it
arb0526 Champion Author Greensboro Posts:2,117 Points:438,320 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:02:30 AM Ignore arb0526 Report Abuse along the lines of speed cameras
rxman1 Champion Author Toledo Posts:9,690 Points:1,889,495 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:01:10 AM Ignore rxman1 Report Abuse Have you ever had a person stop on a green light at one of these intersections? I have several times. Safety NO! Cash yes...for the camera people.
bra0712 Champion Author Arizona Posts:3,795 Points:795,800 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:57:39 PM Ignore bra0712 Report Abuse Good get rid of them!!
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,817 Points:664,910 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:57:12 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse All traffic cams should be eliminated.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,992 Points:441,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:56:47 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse @libertyut doesn't want any cameras. He doesn't want anyone looking at him, the poor paranoid soul. I can hear him screaming, "STOP LOOKING AT ME!"
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:11,076 Points:1,950,580 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:55:14 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse Don't like them.
mdskier Champion Author Maryland Posts:10,077 Points:1,810,340 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:55:09 PM Ignore mdskier Report Abuse They grow like weeds in Maryland. 1000's of them now. Md "The Free State" where we're all treated like criminals. [Edited by: mdskier at 2/19/2013 11:57:03 PM EST]
CCLighthouse Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,136 Points:239,675 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:52:41 PM Ignore CCLighthouse Report Abuse Beware of shortened yellow lights! Sssnnnaaaag!
ConsumerGuy Sophomore Author Baltimore Posts:156 Points:32,105 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:52:11 PM Ignore ConsumerGuy Report Abuse It's all about the money. Politicians get to reap money without raising taxes. They should have more courage. In Baltimore recently, a local reporter received a ticket for going 65MPH in a 30MPH zone, while sitting still at a traffic light. There are 6 cameras on just one street. You could receive 6 tickets in 5 minutes. They generate $30M a year. That's ridiculous.
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,802 Points:2,388,645 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:52:09 PM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse You would think with cameras that the cost would be less with less people on the road writing tickets and doing other things. But alas outsourcing seems to cost MORE money and they take in less.
libertyut Champion Author Utah Posts:1,370 Points:298,200 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:52:08 PM Ignore libertyut Report Abuse get rid of all camera's
Vette1967 Champion Author Albany Posts:6,112 Points:1,304,675 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:51:42 PM Ignore Vette1967 Report Abuse It would make me nervous going under one of them.
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,384 Points:1,712,900 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:50:20 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse Always best with a live person!
dastard57 Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,425 Points:653,530 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:48:45 PM Ignore dastard57 Report Abuse Law enforcement should be done by law enforcement officers not cameras.
pastorpaulcg Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,615 Points:775,785 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:48:32 PM Ignore pastorpaulcg Report Abuse I think it has been building
jackster111 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,537 Points:453,035 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:48:09 PM Ignore jackster111 Report Abuse okay
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,992 Points:441,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:44:34 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse @AKmailman said, "Alaska is one of those nine states" For what? To photograph the moose crossing the road?
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,992 Points:441,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:43:32 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse You shouldn't be following so closely, @milespergallon. It's one car length separation for every 10mph of your speed. Defensive driving 101.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,992 Points:441,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:42:16 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse So, @imadriver. If I get creamed by an idiot on the road, I guess it's my fault for being in the wrong place at the wrong time?
Tucker16 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:1,191 Points:564,950 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:42:09 PM Ignore Tucker16 Report Abuse I hate 'em.