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Get ready for hydrogen car revolution

iol motoring -- Industry has been eyeing hydrogen for decades as a source of automotive energy, because the gas produces no fossil-fuel-type emissions when it is burned in fuel cells.

Water vapour issuing from the exhaust pipe is the sole sign of activity inside the cells as they quietly convert chemical energy into electricity.

That power then drives electric motors, often mounted on the wheel hub at the ends of the axles, to provide motion. Hydrogen propulsion has the edge over the all-electric solutions currently being tried out, and in the end it may outlive them all.

The technology has so far found its way into some expensive buses and forklift trucks, but no hydrogen-powered car has gone on sale despite the collective efforts of Honda, Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Opel to develop one.



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SVmike
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 5:03:59 PM

Hydrogen is not going to power any significant number of vehicles for decades.

See link: http://www.edmunds.com/autoobserver-archive/2008/02/fuel-cell-experiment-misses-the-bus.html

3 hydrogen fuel cell buses. Costs were 32x that of diesel. $50 per mile compared to $1.61 per mile. Fuel costs were 10x.
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nru
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 1:59:34 PM

Seems like a good place for a subsidy
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DimitrisIL
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 1:01:58 PM

Numberous efforts from many automobile manufactures but we need to see and be able to buy these cars. Make it REAL!

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CPGas1815
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 1:01:48 PM

Hydrogen is our planet's most abundant resource but these revolutionary vehicles will definitely be far more than I could ever afford.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 12:00:53 PM

Perhaps Toyota is putting so much energy that they are neglecting their current cars and they are falling into the recall pile!
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:58:30 AM

Step in the right direction
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Asbury09
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:50:44 AM

this technology is still in the early stage of development, especially when you look at the manufacturers involved
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:49:59 AM

ok, but don't set the price too high...
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crep1291
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:33:34 AM

Hydrogen isn't that expensive. With a kg of H2 costing anywhere between $2 and $10 (depending on method of production) and containing 141MJ of energy, it would be like paying 0.60-2.65$/gal for gas in a car that gets 25% efficiency, assuming the FV vehicle is 90% efficient. The problem is the cost of the fuel cells.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:31:16 AM

ANYTHING is better for than Big Oil manipulating prices. When technologies like these mature and actually compete on a level playing field is when Big Oil loses it's power to manipulate.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:21:22 AM

not in my time
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:20:53 AM

Don't hold your breath! Hydrogen is hard to make and most people do not want a high pressure tank of hydrogen in their car. This is very inefficient compared to other energy sources.
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maciek
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:20:03 AM

It is not gonna happen any time soon !
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dad2two
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:18:25 AM

This technology is on it's way up. Electric cars are just a stopgap.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:16:42 AM

Ballard has been doing this for years and years
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:15:17 AM

Still quite a way aways. Only 50 refueling stations in Germany by 2015, new auto models planned for release in 2015, 2017 and later...
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:09:50 AM

Ready? I don't think so.
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bouncing4fun
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:08:34 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:08:33 AM

Hmmm. Let the rich folks be the guinea pigs for this new technology. As for me, I'll stick with diesel.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:08:16 AM

Interesting!
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:07:53 AM

Keep the prices reasonable and people will buy into it.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:07:43 AM

Maybe for my grandson - he is 5
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:07:28 AM

Yes to hydrogen,
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:06:24 AM

try natural gas too
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:04:30 AM

The fuel cell will work. It is an older technology. Burning straight Hydrogen is used by the space program only and that will be the great part of the hydrogen revolution once storing the fuel is accomplished.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:02:58 AM

This is a step in the right direction.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:01:25 AM

if it works?
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 11:00:29 AM

Do it, but do it well.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:59:30 AM

You can make a add on kit yourself.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:59:22 AM

Okay.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:51:04 AM

I love how over 3/4 of this article extols the good points of a hydrogen-fueled car, such as "because the gas produces no fossil-fuel-type emissions when it is burned in fuel cells."
Yeah? What about the energy consumed in producing the hydrogen? How about the energy consumed in producing the tanks and parts necessary to make this work in a car? Ahhh... not as green as made out to be.
I do think this concept has more potential than a battery-powered EV, but when the car can be bought for $20,000, can run 300 or more miles on a fill-up, there are an abundance of hydrogen filling stations, and it only costs $30 to fill 'er up, THEN it will sell like hotcakes.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:43:01 AM

Too expensive at this stage.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:42:59 AM

Sunds promising but no mention of cost.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:42:42 AM

Baby steps. Why is it that everyone wants to start an "revolution" overnight ?
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:40:00 AM

Still under examination. Too costly by far, and, as yet, unproven in large quantities of vehicles.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:39:38 AM

I'm not ready and it looks like it will be a few more years for this to take place.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:39:19 AM

Believe it when I see it & the infrastructure behind it. Hydrogen has been talked about for what - about 30 yrs - & electric has been on the horizon was about 100 yrs!!!
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:39:03 AM

A fuel cell powered EV is what I would wait for. The battery powered cars will never have the range we would expect and with the recent problems Boeing is having with their LI-Ion batteries, I'm not going there either.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:38:50 AM

I hope this technology pans out for the public!
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:38:30 AM

Now all we have to do is find someone who can make it happen!
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paulp24
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:36:19 AM

This hydrogen revolution has been talked about for 20 years...not very optimistic its ever gonna happen.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:35:43 AM

This is what I am waiting for.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:34:32 AM

Hope it's a little more substantial than the EV car revolution (that wasn't).
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:34:04 AM

Not for me yet
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:33:57 AM

The future of hydrogen power is in the future. We will be chasing it forever!
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:33:37 AM

Another alternative! There is no one solution! No magic bullet!
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:32:01 AM

sounds nice, where does the hydrogen come from? Typically from Electricity. Any conversion process has losses.
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:30:42 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:28:24 AM

THIS IS OUR FUTURE!
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 10:27:57 AM

Sounds interesting but there are still a lot of questions to answer
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