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E15 Ethanol Fuel Can Damage Engines, New Automaker Study Says

Green Car Reports -- A new study released today by the Coordinating Research Council says that E15 gasoline, which contains 15 percent ethanol, could damage the engines of certain high-volume car and truck models.

The two-year study was conducted on eight different engines from the 2001 through 2009 model years, with a pair of vehicles for each engine tested--one on conventional gasoline, one on E15.

Two of the eight engines running on E15 suffered lower performance, misfiring, reduced fuel economy, and damaged valves and valve seats. A third showed tailpipe emissions that increased above the legal limit.


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Submitted May 17, 2012 By: Jumpmaster82
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KMVeneta
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 4:31:12 PM

I believe this is reducing my fuel economy in my F-150
honda0105
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Message Posted: May 21, 2012 5:47:51 AM

EtOH has never been the answer, esp. not when it comes from food sources.
sydb7
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Message Posted: May 20, 2012 5:37:53 PM

No food for fuel! non-food ethanol only!
methaneman
Champion Author Minnesota

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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 6:03:09 PM

Get rid of ethanol all together. E10 is ruining alot of engines now. It is a loosing fuel alternative.
sparky808
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 1:08:55 PM

End the mandate.
Virgin55
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 7:43:18 AM

ok
nb52
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 6:24:45 AM

It has been known for decades.
dave12
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 5:43:18 AM

In Brazil they make the crap from sugar cane and they don't endlessly subsidize it, like forever like we do here!
tomok
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 3:08:00 AM

Ethanol is Not good for internal combustion engines or any other engines. Use 100% straight gasoline, if possible. NO fuel from Food! No subsidies the taxpayers will have to pay for.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible!
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
12/22/2012!
Vette1967
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 1:54:40 AM

This is not good.
KAR120CSII
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 1:45:06 AM

Why doesn't EPA get back to doing what they do best -- not shilling for Agri-Business -- and protect the public?
abacus44
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:32:58 AM

Brazil is not more technologically advanced, they just drive crappier cars.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:28:28 AM

CiVX is right. Brazil has had E100 since the '80s so how come they have cars that can run on this stuff?

You saying Brazil is more technologically advanced than the U.S.???
jkpsr
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:23:08 AM

Correction: E85 WILL damage engines!
hotrod_brother
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:20:38 AM

E10 causes me enough grief now, can't wait for E15...NOT !!!
CiVX
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:20:00 AM

Well they should ask the Brazilians how they have been doing it for decades.
jrsva
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:19:30 AM


Gee, engine damage from ethanol — what a unique idea.
When is the government going to wake up and realize that this ethanol binge is an all-around loser??
crreed1
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:18:54 AM

don't want any
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:18:43 AM

OK
tedjm1
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:17:34 AM

I do not believe proper testing was done with ethanol. Came about because was greter profit for farmers. Let farms grow food, and let gas be pure.
JimL1
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:17:11 AM

The legislators in congress have been bought and paid for by the campaign contributions from lobbyists and PACs. I know of no one who wants ethanol, however, congress ignores all of us and makes it a requirement.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:15:38 AM

abcdMA said, "this is the governments idea of how to save the auto industry."

No, this is the government's way of appeasing the Iowa and Nebraska corn lobby. If you don't support corn subsidies, let your congressperson and senators know about it and threaten to vote them out if they do nothing about this.

And if that doesn't work, run for Congress yourself.
blueBMW480
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:15:12 AM

Ok
Bigwaynef
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:15:06 AM

Same as adding water to your gas...
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:15:03 AM

Double dislike
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:14:43 AM

Interesting - Thanks for posting.
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:14:38 AM

ok
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:12:14 AM

All ethanol is bad.
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:11:46 AM

not a surprise
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:11:45 AM

geeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzz...
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:11:13 AM

I get that everyone here hates ethanol but I have to ask, since one of the reasons ethanol was introduced was to replace MTBE, which was contaminating groundwater, do you want to go back to MTBE?

rahcat
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:10:12 AM

Eat corn.......do not make ethanol.
miser709
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:09:54 AM

Ethanol is a BAD idea.
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:09:24 AM

No ethanol.
joel27nc
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:09:14 AM

I don't doubt it
Toppers
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:09:10 AM

still not a fan
PrinceLH
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:09:04 AM

They can keep it!
millerin
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:06:11 AM

hmmmm...
cheapchickKY
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:06:09 AM

Hopefully E15 will evaporate.
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:05:44 AM

Ethanol is crap
LostToo
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:05:23 AM

Maybe they will fix the problem before it hits the pumps. ;-) Hahahahahahahah ya think?
ricebike
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:03:46 AM

greedy bastards

keep it at 10%
regout
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:02:22 AM

Left corn for people.
TheeRedRam
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:02:07 AM

Just what we need
jem069
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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:01:13 AM

ok
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 11:58:55 PM

srchr,

Exactly. We need to get this message out. So we vote the bums out.

srchr
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politicians don't care - it's the votes that count
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 11:57:02 PM

Ok
Harry813
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 11:55:16 PM

I do not like ethanol ... I used to.
Dodge_Me
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 11:52:38 PM

None for me
papa56NC
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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 11:52:34 PM

Alright!!! I think
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