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Kimmunicate All-Star Author San Francisco Posts:600 Points:137,060 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 11:46:12 AM Ignore Kimmunicate Report Abuse I don't think criminals need the batmobile to be scared.
REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:5,236 Points:996,415 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 11:08:58 AM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse I kind of like the police cars in the Benelux. Can you say "Porche"?
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:6,050 Points:683,520 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 11:03:00 AM Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse local guys say the Dodges' brakes make them the King; they just follow until the bad guys' brakes give up.
VTROCK Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,791 Points:386,955 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:57:55 AM Ignore VTROCK Report Abuse 75,000 cars per year is a nice market, but when it gets split 4 ways there's not much there. Someone is going to have to lose in theis contest or everyone will lose.
Italianman All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:812 Points:290,945 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:43:00 AM Ignore Italianman Report Abuse Police need to change with the times.
BlueTucson All-Star Author Syracuse Posts:511 Points:618,940 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:36:49 AM Ignore BlueTucson Report Abuse All look promising. The Carbon E7 is particularly intriguing.
egd Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,887 Points:1,299,985 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:36:41 AM Ignore egd Report Abuse gee I want/need one, just like I needed a Hummer
TopGunn Champion Author Baltimore Posts:4,059 Points:1,604,060 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:33:21 AM Ignore TopGunn Report Abuse Don't really care who the 'winner' is. Law abiding people sweat no bullets.
mmproteus Veteran Author Ohio Posts:271 Points:367,140 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:31:15 AM Ignore mmproteus Report Abuse Nothing strikes terror into the heart like a Toyota Prius police cruiser! With its patent-pending Unbridled Acceleration™ feature, no one will escape.
kyrunner Champion Author Lexington Posts:3,737 Points:688,060 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:30:45 AM Ignore kyrunner Report Abuse Capitalism and competition are great motivators.
Helms Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:4,111 Points:1,196,640 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:29:38 AM Ignore Helms Report Abuse Go Ford Go
arnerator Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,052 Points:619,035 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:29:27 AM Ignore arnerator Report Abuse Gotta be a big hog out there somewhere.
gagal31525 Veteran Author Georgia Posts:423 Points:368,645 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:26:49 AM Ignore gagal31525 Report Abuse Interesting to see what will win.
ljmatney Champion Author Wichita Posts:4,024 Points:565,120 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:26:07 AM Ignore ljmatney Report Abuse Go Ford!!
FBI2991 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,534 Points:393,020 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:23:14 AM Ignore FBI2991 Report Abuse We'll see
twiper1 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,751 Points:593,470 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:23:12 AM Ignore twiper1 Report Abuse Ford id the better idea
must87searcher Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,977 Points:774,200 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:22:57 AM Ignore must87searcher Report Abuse A number of police departments around here have made the switch from the Ford Crown Vic to the Chevrolet Impala. They probably replaced then for the same reasons. I hope the police understand that when they use a specific auto, especially one that is not sold in private sales, that these partol cars are easy to identifiy.
206awd250 Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,242 Points:409,045 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:21:16 AM Ignore 206awd250 Report Abuse The Dodge Chargers looks nice.
RetiredVP Veteran Author New Hampshire Posts:376 Points:161,345 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:19:56 AM Ignore RetiredVP Report Abuse Cops love their Crown Vic's
afghaned Champion Author Hamilton Posts:4,010 Points:274,150 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:18:32 AM Ignore afghaned Report Abuse Repeat.
JuliusRex Veteran Author Orlando Posts:252 Points:101,775 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:17:55 AM Ignore JuliusRex Report Abuse I would love to see the start-up get a bit of this market.
Pucked Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:1,091 Points:210,780 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:15:00 AM Ignore Pucked Report Abuse Wait till they drive the Ford SHO with all wheel drive - it will blow all the others away!
LilRedWagonIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,637 Points:569,180 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:09:50 AM Ignore LilRedWagonIN Report Abuse Dodge has already been taking market share and with problems with its new competition, will continue to do so.
sleepyt Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,256 Points:392,910 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:05:01 AM Ignore sleepyt Report Abuse I'm betting on another RWD car for a different reason... many officers have learned driving techniques that are applicable only to RWD. It is a very different experience driving aggressively in corners with FWD. I have one of each, and I did some competition driving - and the techniques in corners are somewhat different. The hidden cost of conversion to FWD is that forces will have to retrain their officers.
vlaz55 Sophomore Author London Posts:141 Points:483,545 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:04:20 AM Ignore vlaz55 Report Abuse Give them Smart cars! LOL
dopster Champion Author Toledo Posts:2,007 Points:1,327,835 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:03:33 AM Ignore dopster Report Abuse As I stated the other day, the Toledo Police Department switched to a fleet of Dodge Chargers that seems to be working out quite well.
indyjim Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:4,575 Points:1,312,260 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:02:55 AM Ignore indyjim Report Abuse Yes, but which one has a secret compartment to hold the donuts?
chemist74 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:9,663 Points:1,650,885 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:01:58 AM Ignore chemist74 Report Abuse State and local police have serious budget problems so price will be a real issue. From previous stories I have seen on the Carbon Motors vehicle, I think they will price themselves out of most of the market.
gasman50 Champion Author Portland Posts:3,734 Points:1,399,040 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:58:45 AM Ignore gasman50 Report Abuse Time will tell I guess
ModelWarships Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,769 Points:430,795 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:57:18 AM Ignore ModelWarships Report Abuse Sure would like to see a RWD Ford.
ampinoy13 Champion Author Oregon Posts:24,734 Points:1,784,405 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:56:58 AM Ignore ampinoy13 Report Abuse The Carbon7 does sound interesting and, being designed by cops for cops, might be more functional.
Maintroll Champion Author Lexington Posts:3,503 Points:687,335 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:53:21 AM Ignore Maintroll Report Abuse Ford has ruled this market for years and I think that I would definitely stay with Ford on this one.
Diesel_Ram Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,523 Points:518,300 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:52:42 AM Ignore Diesel_Ram Report Abuse The Crown Vic is long past it prime. The Taurus will do a better job.
Cuzilla Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:8,643 Points:1,517,415 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:52:11 AM Ignore Cuzilla Report Abuse A lot of factors to consider. There are so many variables to consider: road conditions, weather, urban or country, maintenance considerations, etc.. It's hard to make a case for "one-size-fits-all!"
esorsd All-Star Author St. Louis Posts:917 Points:654,925 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:51:48 AM Ignore esorsd Report Abuse I'm putting my bets on RWD for long-term durability.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:14,508 Points:1,909,060 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:48:17 AM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse It will be interesting to see who comes to the top. I'd be on the durability of RWD, and guess the GM or the Dodge will win out. I wonder if Carbon Motors is going to use an existing chassis and engine, or design their own from scratch?
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:4,539 Points:770,095 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:47:37 AM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Force them to drive TOYotas. Maybe they will believe the cops.
9C1 Champion Author Chicago Posts:17,489 Points:3,242,020 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:46:51 AM Ignore 9C1 Report Abuse It will be interesting to see how Chevrolet's Caprice compares to the Ford's Taurus. RWD v FWD.
CptnCanada Champion Author Saskatoon Posts:2,606 Points:389,225 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:45:47 AM Ignore CptnCanada Report Abuse Front drive VS rear drive have very different handling qualities so if the police go to frond drive they will all have to reteach their officers in pursuit.
TommyTraveler Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:3,499 Points:684,380 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:44:49 AM Ignore TommyTraveler Report Abuse Ford's police car looks mean.
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:9,546 Points:1,670,010 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:55 AM Ignore bicycler Report Abuse ByGuy; And may the best buyer know which car to buy.
BillHeatherL Champion Author Alberta Posts:2,634 Points:956,080 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:49 AM Ignore BillHeatherL Report Abuse time will tell who will win
bills55 All-Star Author San Diego Posts:981 Points:265,550 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:36 AM Ignore bills55 Report Abuse Not the tortise!
Ticoman54 Champion Author Miami Posts:2,483 Points:555,785 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:33 AM Ignore Ticoman54 Report Abuse I agree with threewheeler.
TXGasPriceSpy Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:2,495 Points:466,870 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:29 AM Ignore TXGasPriceSpy Report Abuse Interesting story. I'd like to see the Carbon car but not in my rear view mirror. It sounds good.
njerald Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,708 Points:630,780 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:23 AM Ignore njerald Report Abuse Go FORD.
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:5,363 Points:1,022,115 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:15 AM Ignore RochBear Report Abuse And if Ford drops the Taurus SHO engine in it, it will be able to keep up with 99% of anything on the road. Plus Cops never NEED to go over 100 MPH anyhow. They use the radio for a high speed chase - tough to beat radio waves for speed. (just under the speed of light) Cops have to drive in all kinds of crappy weather, so front wheel drive might be a real plus for them.
eights Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,880 Points:508,200 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:02 AM Ignore eights Report Abuse dennisjk that funny
ByGuy Champion Author Dallas Posts:3,062 Points:753,005 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:39:30 AM Ignore ByGuy Report Abuse May the best vehicle win.
Dennis783 Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:8,577 Points:1,712,210 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:37:04 AM Ignore Dennis783 Report Abuse When I was in law enforcement I preferred the Caprice. Good to see some competition.
Dennisjk Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,517 Points:1,009,010 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:36:14 AM Ignore Dennisjk Report Abuse Put all the cops in Toyotas. We already know you can't catch them. Toyota can get Tiger Woods as a new spokesman. They, Tiger and Toyota, can use the slogan, "We promise we can stop."