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Kimmunicate Champion Author San Francisco Posts:1,068 Points:371,420 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 11:46:12 AM Ignore Kimmunicate Report Abuse I don't think criminals need the batmobile to be scared.
REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:8,022 Points:1,539,190 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 11:08:58 AM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse I kind of like the police cars in the Benelux. Can you say "Porche"?
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,148 Points:828,370 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 11:03:00 AM Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse local guys say the Dodges' brakes make them the King; they just follow until the bad guys' brakes give up.
VTROCK Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,582 Points:644,455 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:57:55 AM Ignore VTROCK Report Abuse 75,000 cars per year is a nice market, but when it gets split 4 ways there's not much there. Someone is going to have to lose in theis contest or everyone will lose.
Italianman Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,732 Points:774,070 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:43:00 AM Ignore Italianman Report Abuse Police need to change with the times.
BlueTucson Champion Author Syracuse Posts:1,933 Points:974,220 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:36:49 AM Ignore BlueTucson Report Abuse All look promising. The Carbon E7 is particularly intriguing.
egd Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:6,048 Points:1,721,740 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:36:41 AM Ignore egd Report Abuse gee I want/need one, just like I needed a Hummer
TopGunn Champion Author Baltimore Posts:6,811 Points:2,148,305 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:33:21 AM Ignore TopGunn Report Abuse Don't really care who the 'winner' is. Law abiding people sweat no bullets.
mmproteus Veteran Author Ohio Posts:378 Points:663,810 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:31:15 AM Ignore mmproteus Report Abuse Nothing strikes terror into the heart like a Toyota Prius police cruiser! With its patent-pending Unbridled Acceleration™ feature, no one will escape.
kyrunner Champion Author Lexington Posts:6,583 Points:1,231,115 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:30:45 AM Ignore kyrunner Report Abuse Capitalism and competition are great motivators.
Helms Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:4,724 Points:1,494,080 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:29:38 AM Ignore Helms Report Abuse Go Ford Go
arnerator Champion Author Seattle Posts:5,811 Points:1,153,660 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:29:27 AM Ignore arnerator Report Abuse Gotta be a big hog out there somewhere.
gagal31525 Veteran Author Georgia Posts:423 Points:377,120 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:26:49 AM Ignore gagal31525 Report Abuse Interesting to see what will win.
ljmatney Champion Author Wichita Posts:4,024 Points:565,120 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:26:07 AM Ignore ljmatney Report Abuse Go Ford!!
FBI2991 Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,152 Points:687,135 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:23:14 AM Ignore FBI2991 Report Abuse We'll see
twiper1 Champion Author San Diego Posts:5,467 Points:1,137,485 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:23:12 AM Ignore twiper1 Report Abuse Ford id the better idea
must87searcher Champion Author Maryland Posts:6,660 Points:1,313,520 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:22:57 AM Ignore must87searcher Report Abuse A number of police departments around here have made the switch from the Ford Crown Vic to the Chevrolet Impala. They probably replaced then for the same reasons. I hope the police understand that when they use a specific auto, especially one that is not sold in private sales, that these partol cars are easy to identifiy.
206awd250 Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,260 Points:521,055 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:21:16 AM Ignore 206awd250 Report Abuse The Dodge Chargers looks nice.
RetiredVP Veteran Author New Hampshire Posts:389 Points:176,655 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:19:56 AM Ignore RetiredVP Report Abuse Cops love their Crown Vic's
afghaned Champion Author Hamilton Posts:8,492 Points:819,875 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:18:32 AM Ignore afghaned Report Abuse Repeat.
JuliusRex Champion Author Orlando Posts:1,689 Points:308,610 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:17:55 AM Ignore JuliusRex Report Abuse I would love to see the start-up get a bit of this market.
Pucked Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:1,091 Points:210,780 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:15:00 AM Ignore Pucked Report Abuse Wait till they drive the Ford SHO with all wheel drive - it will blow all the others away!
LilRedWagonIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:5,411 Points:1,103,025 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:09:50 AM Ignore LilRedWagonIN Report Abuse Dodge has already been taking market share and with problems with its new competition, will continue to do so.
sleepyt Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,293 Points:702,800 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:05:01 AM Ignore sleepyt Report Abuse I'm betting on another RWD car for a different reason... many officers have learned driving techniques that are applicable only to RWD. It is a very different experience driving aggressively in corners with FWD. I have one of each, and I did some competition driving - and the techniques in corners are somewhat different. The hidden cost of conversion to FWD is that forces will have to retrain their officers.
vlaz55 Veteran Author London Posts:320 Points:637,975 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:04:20 AM Ignore vlaz55 Report Abuse Give them Smart cars! LOL
dopster Champion Author Toledo Posts:4,774 Points:1,823,600 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:03:33 AM Ignore dopster Report Abuse As I stated the other day, the Toledo Police Department switched to a fleet of Dodge Chargers that seems to be working out quite well.
indyjim Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:7,391 Points:1,853,645 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:02:55 AM Ignore indyjim Report Abuse Yes, but which one has a secret compartment to hold the donuts?
chemist74 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:12,371 Points:2,175,290 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:01:58 AM Ignore chemist74 Report Abuse State and local police have serious budget problems so price will be a real issue. From previous stories I have seen on the Carbon Motors vehicle, I think they will price themselves out of most of the market.
gasman50 Champion Author Portland Posts:6,495 Points:1,944,545 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:58:45 AM Ignore gasman50 Report Abuse Time will tell I guess
ModelWarships Champion Author Missouri Posts:4,220 Points:918,180 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:57:18 AM Ignore ModelWarships Report Abuse Sure would like to see a RWD Ford.
ampinoy13 Champion Author Oregon Posts:30,871 Points:2,202,820 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:56:58 AM Ignore ampinoy13 Report Abuse The Carbon7 does sound interesting and, being designed by cops for cops, might be more functional.
Maintroll Champion Author Lexington Posts:6,271 Points:1,234,635 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:53:21 AM Ignore Maintroll Report Abuse Ford has ruled this market for years and I think that I would definitely stay with Ford on this one.
Diesel_Ram Champion Author Dallas Posts:4,212 Points:1,053,255 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:52:42 AM Ignore Diesel_Ram Report Abuse The Crown Vic is long past it prime. The Taurus will do a better job.
Cuzilla Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:10,633 Points:1,966,635 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:52:11 AM Ignore Cuzilla Report Abuse A lot of factors to consider. There are so many variables to consider: road conditions, weather, urban or country, maintenance considerations, etc.. It's hard to make a case for "one-size-fits-all!"
esorsd Champion Author St. Louis Posts:3,488 Points:1,183,790 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:51:48 AM Ignore esorsd Report Abuse I'm putting my bets on RWD for long-term durability.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:21,248 Points:2,449,740 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:48:17 AM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse It will be interesting to see who comes to the top. I'd be on the durability of RWD, and guess the GM or the Dodge will win out. I wonder if Carbon Motors is going to use an existing chassis and engine, or design their own from scratch?
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:7,567 Points:1,307,530 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:47:37 AM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Force them to drive TOYotas. Maybe they will believe the cops.
9C1 Champion Author Chicago Posts:20,392 Points:3,786,860 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:46:51 AM Ignore 9C1 Report Abuse It will be interesting to see how Chevrolet's Caprice compares to the Ford's Taurus. RWD v FWD.
CptnCanada Champion Author Saskatoon Posts:5,038 Points:665,950 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:45:47 AM Ignore CptnCanada Report Abuse Front drive VS rear drive have very different handling qualities so if the police go to frond drive they will all have to reteach their officers in pursuit.
TommyTraveler Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:6,305 Points:1,231,305 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:44:49 AM Ignore TommyTraveler Report Abuse Ford's police car looks mean.
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:12,680 Points:2,205,345 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:55 AM Ignore bicycler Report Abuse ByGuy; And may the best buyer know which car to buy.
BillHeatherL Champion Author Alberta Posts:5,319 Points:1,476,355 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:49 AM Ignore BillHeatherL Report Abuse time will tell who will win
bills55 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,207 Points:513,955 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:36 AM Ignore bills55 Report Abuse Not the tortise!
Ticoman54 Champion Author Miami Posts:4,935 Points:1,055,050 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:33 AM Ignore Ticoman54 Report Abuse I agree with threewheeler.
TXGasPriceSpy Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:5,312 Points:1,008,300 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:29 AM Ignore TXGasPriceSpy Report Abuse Interesting story. I'd like to see the Carbon car but not in my rear view mirror. It sounds good.
njerald Champion Author Seattle Posts:5,473 Points:1,165,400 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:23 AM Ignore njerald Report Abuse Go FORD.
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,447 Points:1,437,455 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:15 AM Ignore RochBear Report Abuse And if Ford drops the Taurus SHO engine in it, it will be able to keep up with 99% of anything on the road. Plus Cops never NEED to go over 100 MPH anyhow. They use the radio for a high speed chase - tough to beat radio waves for speed. (just under the speed of light) Cops have to drive in all kinds of crappy weather, so front wheel drive might be a real plus for them.
eights Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,085 Points:575,025 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:42:02 AM Ignore eights Report Abuse dennisjk that funny
ByGuy Champion Author Dallas Posts:5,644 Points:1,267,355 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:39:30 AM Ignore ByGuy Report Abuse May the best vehicle win.
Dennis783 Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:11,264 Points:2,246,010 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:37:04 AM Ignore Dennis783 Report Abuse When I was in law enforcement I preferred the Caprice. Good to see some competition.
Dennisjk Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,562 Points:1,492,195 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:36:14 AM Ignore Dennisjk Report Abuse Put all the cops in Toyotas. We already know you can't catch them. Toyota can get Tiger Woods as a new spokesman. They, Tiger and Toyota, can use the slogan, "We promise we can stop."