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Massive BP refinery expansion in Indiana delayed

GasBuddy Blog -- Not good news for motorists in the Great Lakes. BP has indicated that a massive multi-year expansion project will not be completed on time.

The sixth largest refinery in the country, according to BP, lies in Whiting, Indiana. The facility has been undergoing a multi-billion dollar expansion since 2008, and was tentatively scheduled to be online in early 2013. However, problems arose. According to Bloomberg, the refinery expansion may not be complete until the third quarter at earliest.

The project is significant in that it will allow the BP refinery to process significantly more Canadian crude oil than it currently does- rising from 80,000 barrels per day to nearly 350,000 barrels per day. Currently, Canadian crude oil...

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akitaone Champion Author Tampa Posts:1,342 Points:88,995 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2013 10:11:29 PM Ignore akitaone Report Abuse give BP da Boot
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:591 Points:145,210 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2013 3:01:14 AM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse wont use bp
slicerette Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,529 Points:541,910 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2013 12:40:57 AM Ignore slicerette Report Abuse a little more info from December 14, 2012 "A major $4 Billion expansion project at BP Whiting, Indiana refinery is 80% complete, spokesman Scott Dean said Friday. The project is on track to be completed in the second half of 2013, Mr. Dean said. BP began work on the 337,000 barrel-a-day refinery in 2008 with the aim of increasing its capacity to process heavy Canadian crude. The project involves a new heavy crude unit, a larger coker and gas oil hydrotreater." Downstream Today.
txrojo2005 All-Star Author Austin Posts:768 Points:481,295 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 8:12:07 PM Ignore txrojo2005 Report Abuse Really?
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,322 Points:2,144,925 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 6:03:32 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Mar 2, 2013 6:15:21 AM, honda0105 wrote: >BP needs the money to pay the lawsuit. >Oh, wait... they'll just charge more at the pump... You REALLY think they can charge more at the pump? Then why don't they charge $5 a gallon? You wouldn't think these oil companies COMPETE with each other, do they?
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:591 Points:145,210 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2013 11:33:13 PM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse scams by thieves
agrico Veteran Author New Orleans Posts:464 Points:505,390 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2013 9:48:56 PM Ignore agrico Report Abuse lots of government regulations slow down the process
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:591 Points:145,210 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 10:26:11 PM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse uggh !!
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 8:33:44 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse doesn't it snapper?
snapper06 Veteran Author Toledo Posts:460 Points:54,565 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 9:09:11 AM Ignore snapper06 Report Abuse Sounds suspiciously like gasoline and diesel going up in that area because someone had a headache.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 5:56:43 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse no Doc, but I was saying BP should be cautious with wasting money right now b/c the LA lawsuit could cost them up to four times as much as they may expect.
Methodist All-Star Author Indiana Posts:606 Points:155,215 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 2:10:02 PM Ignore Methodist Report Abuse should this be a surprise
DoctorV Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,070 Points:204,570 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:40:00 PM Ignore DoctorV Report Abuse Right honda, which has nothing to do with this delay, unlike the lawsuit I am referring to.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 5:51:51 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse and I am talking about the DWH lawsuit underway right now, DocV.
swampman Rookie Author Ontario Posts:79 Points:507,655 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 3:13:43 PM Ignore swampman Report Abuse ok
DoctorV Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,070 Points:204,570 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 7:58:50 AM Ignore DoctorV Report Abuse The lawsuit I referred to was filed in December.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 7:56:17 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse thanks for posting the info, slicerette.
slicerette Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,529 Points:541,910 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 11:14:49 PM Ignore slicerette Report Abuse Here's an article from 2012 to help explain what happened: Wed May 23, 2012 6:18pm EDT (Reuters) - BP said it will spend $400 million to install pollution controls at its giant Whiting, Indiana refinery (next to Chicago), to allow it to process heavy crude oil from Canada, in a deal with EPA. The consent decree reached with the U.S. Justice Department and Environmental Protection Agency also requires BP to pay $8 million to resolve prior alleged clean-air violations at its 405,000-barrels-per-day plant, the sixth-largest U.S. refinery. The deal, announced by the government and confirmed by BP, ends years of opposition that might have left BP unable to use $4 billion worth of new processing units being installed at Whiting Indiana that will allow it to run Canadian tar sands crude as early as 2013. BP has set plans to use Canadian crudes for more than 85 percent of the refinery's daily needs. To boost profits, U.S. Midwest refiners are looking to retrofit plants to process plentiful supplies of Canadian heavy oil, which is cheaper but also has a higher content of pollutants that cause acid rain, smog and haze.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 7:15:21 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse BP needs the money to pay the lawsuit. Oh, wait... they'll just charge more at the pump...
mr_thumper Sophomore Author Fresno Posts:216 Points:77,660 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Mar 1, 2013 2:32:15 PM Ignore mr_thumper Report Abuse Probably some tree huggers found a long-lost ant that is near distinction so they got some wacko judge to put a halt to things.
slicerette Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,529 Points:541,910 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Mar 1, 2013 8:23:27 AM Ignore slicerette Report Abuse BP Whiting Oil Refinery is in its final construction stage, over $4 billion has been spent.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 1, 2013 6:00:17 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse BP should keep the dollars close at hand with the lawsuit in LA. May not have the money to build this, depending on the outcome.
DoctorV Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,070 Points:204,570 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 6:20:31 PM Ignore DoctorV Report Abuse BP filed a lawsuit against its contractors for faulty fireproof coating on structural steel used in the plant. The start up of one of its fractionators has been delayed which has delayed the start of its new cokers.
slicerette Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,529 Points:541,910 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:51:13 PM Ignore slicerette Report Abuse Delay was caused by EPA permit hold up. BP wants refinery expansion to go thru because 1. BP has invested $4.4 billion dollars in Whiting Indiana Expansion 2. BP has over six years of planning and building in this. 3. It will have a higher profit margin when it refines cheaper heavy Canadian crude oil. Please Note that Detroit gasoline prices have gone down since Marathon completed their expansion of the Detroit Oil Refinery in Nov. 2012. DHOUP - Detroit Heavy Oil Update Project.
slicerette Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,529 Points:541,910 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:50:09 PM Ignore slicerette Report Abuse Delay was caused by EPA permit hold up. BP wants refinery expansion to go thru because 1. BP has invested $4.4 billion dollars in Whiting Indiana Expansion 2. BP has over six years of planning and building in this. 3. It will have a higher profit margin when it refiners cheaper heavy Canadian crude oil. Please Note that Detroit gasoline prices have gone down since Marathon completed their expansion of the Detroit Oil Refinery in Nov. 2012. DHOUP - Detroit Heavy Oil Update Project.
CapriceWagon All-Star Author Washington Posts:949 Points:481,020 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 9:21:22 AM Ignore CapriceWagon Report Abuse The great lakes are getting hammered lately
gravityhurts Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,103 Points:939,455 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 7:22:05 AM Ignore gravityhurts Report Abuse Just dragging their feet to keep prices up. What excuse will they use next.
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CPGas1815 Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,027 Points:1,099,605 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 8:12:05 PM Ignore CPGas1815 Report Abuse This is really bad news!! Yet another delay while we are paying close to or even more than 4 BUCKS PER GALLON!!!
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SmkyPlyr984 Veteran Author Connecticut Posts:391 Points:5,700 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 6:08:15 PM Ignore SmkyPlyr984 Report Abuse they want to wait until the 5 dollar driving spike this spring and summer are over,,, before they get it going,,,
txrojo2005 All-Star Author Austin Posts:768 Points:481,295 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 5:05:34 PM Ignore txrojo2005 Report Abuse It figures.
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Neely8 Veteran Author Boston Posts:464 Points:103,050 Joined:Feb 2013	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:26:18 PM Ignore Neely8 Report Abuse Bad news, but what is the cause of the delay? Funding? Regulations? How long will the delay be? More details were needed in this article.
wulf2000 Champion Author Miami Posts:3,032 Points:1,390,805 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:13:58 PM Ignore wulf2000 Report Abuse The cause of the delay is not given.
sjf238 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:1,215 Points:647,955 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 2:57:56 PM Ignore sjf238 Report Abuse Bad news.
DoctorV Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,070 Points:204,570 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 2:36:21 PM Ignore DoctorV Report Abuse 24 hours later and another 1000 posts from people pulling stuff out of their behind, and not a single one of them has ever worked construction in their life. [Edited by: DoctorV at 2/27/2013 2:37:43 PM EST]
DoctorV Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,070 Points:204,570 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 2:35:57 PM Ignore DoctorV Report Abuse 24 hours later and another 1000 posts from people pulling stuff out of their behind, and not a single one of them has ever worked construction in their life.
caddilac Champion Author Ontario Posts:16,611 Points:2,141,430 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 2:34:45 PM Ignore caddilac Report Abuse Better late than not at all. I didn't read anything in the full article where it said the delay was due to regulations. Why some people here like to SPECULATE and come up with their own crap is ludicrous. And there will be those that will believe them that the regulations are the cause because they too are paranoid. Of course it must be true because someone put it on the internet. Just stick to the few facts that were in the article and quit making crap up. [Edited by: caddilac at 2/27/2013 2:36:22 PM EST]
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ItisAJeepThing Champion Author Tucson Posts:19,760 Points:2,152,555 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 2:27:32 PM Ignore ItisAJeepThing Report Abuse BP is afraid of potential losses due to lawsuits over their massive spill.
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carpenter4u Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,436 Points:617,895 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 2:26:28 PM Ignore carpenter4u Report Abuse Regulations, and more regulations
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bobsalwaysmt Champion Author Long Island Posts:4,665 Points:266,040 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 2:24:52 PM Ignore bobsalwaysmt Report Abuse Bet the delays are due in part to REGULATION.