karmadrome
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:17:27 AM
Enough with the Toyota articles already. Enough with the media hysteria! EVER car manufacturer has had problems, right down to tires. And the media is just as guilty with their hype (exploding gas tanks anyone?)
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Bubba44612
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:16:22 AM
What about the people that died in Pinto crashes or GM pick up trucks?
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bell05
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:16:19 AM
TallSteve; I agree in part. I drove a Toyota and I still think that Toyota brought this on themselves. They should have addressed this years a few years back.
Without this specticular wreck and the media coverage, they would probably still be covering it up.
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swlincdrv
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:12:15 AM
Lets move on.
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albert2008
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:11:23 AM
its so sad but hopefully we learn from it
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BazooQC
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:09:18 AM
Are some people looking to profit from a big insurance payout.
For one, the car problem needs to be solved.
For two, lawsuits will need to be dealt with.
Looking backwards, I don't remember how Firestone dealt with the lawsuits after admitting they had an SUV tire problem.
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ndhoanggia
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:07:59 AM
TallSteve, you own a Toyota?
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Jizme
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:07:59 AM
Of course they can't reproduce the incident. All part of the cover-up.
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bababooey2
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:07:36 AM
Tired of this
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gr8w8
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:06:19 AM
I had a similar experience with Honda (no sticking pedals or anything like that) in which I got a lemon Odyssey (van) and I wrote to the company, called, etc and all I got was that it was the dealers fault for not servicing it correctly. I tried to tell the person on the phone that no, it was a poor quality vehicle and it was like talking to a wall. And the dealer got a 'reprimand letter'. BTW the dealer was outstanding in their response/service/care.
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BartBuzz
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:06:05 AM
More about Toyota? Give it a rest.
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Wizrd03
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:05:29 AM
And in todays news, Toyota can't duplicate the highly publicized run away Prius of last week with that car.
Gremlins? (not the AMC type)
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TallSteve
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:05:01 AM
What is this article trying to say? People die in cars every day...Toyotas, Fords, GM cars, and Chrysler cars...and YES...all of them make defective vehicles that have caused injury and death.
This is a witch hunt since Toyota has surpassed GM and Ford as the top selling car company in America...and a new way for attorneys to make money.
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gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 9:04:06 AM
Toyota needs to make a strong response to stop the bleeding, if indeed it isn't already too late.
A strong response would be something akin to Tylenol's no-questions-asked refunds during the Tylenol poisoning scare in the 1980s. that action was widely credited with saving and strengthening Tylenol as a brand.
A strong response -- some kind of refund on generous terms -- would not be cheap, but would salvage Toyota as a brand.
GTH
[Edited by: gas_too_high at 3/15/2010 9:04:44 AM EST]
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72_Monte
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:59:13 AM
Consumer Reports only reports on what it's members have to say about their own cars. Facts is facts.
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KillChain
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:58:24 AM
No comment..............
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SpruceGuse2
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:56:56 AM
And time will tell.......................
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Agabel
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:56:51 AM
corporate greed
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klatu2u
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:56:15 AM
Toyota can't continue to sweep it under the rug
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packards42
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:55:01 AM
Yes, just like Enron and AIG and others. There no real accoutablity in the USA, except for law suit judgments , which are overly inflated in my opinion.
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hauler43
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:54:40 AM
Just not right for Toyota too at first to ignore. US insurance companies and the NHTSA are somewhat at fault here too.
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salog
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:54:12 AM
people die in lot of cars, the problem isn't only with Toyotas.
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mysub
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:53:29 AM
ntimid8, goes to show you what Consumer Report knows.
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afghaned
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:53:08 AM
Considering the driving experience & decision making process of the police officer one would think he'd kow to turn off the ignition or put the vehicle in neutral.
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slayer_taunu
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:51:44 AM
Consumer reports is on Toyota and Honda's payroll
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raleightom
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:51:43 AM
Couldn't they just open the doors and drag their feet. Fred always did something like that back in the cave man days. How soon we forget ;)
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smoketown
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:51:39 AM
Toyota's big cover up will come out sooner or later............
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ntimid8
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:50:25 AM
But Consumer Reports said they were the best.
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Eagle68
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:48:28 AM
Toyota execs should be doing jail time for all this misery and loss of life they have caused.
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2907
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:47:50 AM
Will the car not turn off?
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must87searcher
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:47:10 AM
There are costs for mistakes. Toyota is getting a high cost for these mistakes hear.
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goldilox88
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:46:31 AM
There was a guy on tv last week who claimed his Toyota was faulty. They have tested the car and found nothing amiss. Do you think the man set it up? I certainly do!
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PENNYPINCHR
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:44:24 AM
Sorry for the loss of life.............They will fix the issues.
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flyfast
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:43:47 AM
if we did not have the 911 tape would toyota had the recall
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torch347
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:43:42 AM
This is why I suggested for the manufacture to test as much as they can before selling to the public. This could have been avoided, but the rush to make money and out sell the competition out weights the risk.
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armstrmb
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:41:26 AM
While I believe that the loss of this patrol officer and his family was due to Toyota's bad design (whether in the floor mat or the software, I don't know), but it does not help the side of those lost loved ones when the most current Prius "victim" is communicating only through his lawyer.
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Joeski1
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:40:57 AM
PS: not all state troopers are the sharpest tools in the shed...
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granma3xnow
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:40:54 AM
Not to minimize the families losses. (I refuse to ride in a car driven by my 80 year old mother. She continually slams on the brakes, drives to fast and runs through stop signs, can not back up, uses one foot on the brake and the other on the gas AND gets mixed up about it, can't hear and cannot see to drive after dark. Other family members constantly ask her to "babysit" for free, when they could hire a sitter. I'm just waiting for the sheriffs office to call about an accident).
Other members of the family do not believe that Mom has a problem driving, and unfortunately will not admit it.
And the State will not take her drivers license, NOR will they re-test her driving skills, UNTIL she has an accident.
She drives a Chevy Malibu.
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hemiramrule
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:40:49 AM
All Toy/Recalls should be banded from the roads!
What person in their right mind would drive one?
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sdhuper
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:40:28 AM
some more toyota bashing
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Joeski1
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:40:25 AM
still don't believe this BS about Toyotas....
turn the vehicle off....
or is it run by the HAL9000?????
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Polara500
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:40:18 AM
I'm sorry but this state trooper was an idiot. Had time to phone 911 but not put his car into neutral?
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Tonester1
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:39:46 AM
Wow. I hope USA Today isn't hoping to get Toyota to advertise with them in the future.
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fillerupyeoww
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:39:13 AM
There are also tales of lives saved by Toyota's well engineered vehicles.
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SaltyDogMA
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:38:53 AM
And no-one has died in a Government Motors vehicle? C'mon.
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cableman31
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:37:32 AM
Toyota has been trying to hide these problems for a long time.
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remay
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:37:15 AM
"... NHTSA's database isn't easy to navigate. It includes no names or full vehicle identification numbers ..."
More waste of taxpayers money
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PrepHermit
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:36:04 AM
Daily dose of Toyota BS.
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WonderfulMI
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:35:45 AM
There are a whole lot of unanswered questions here.
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dl72
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:35:38 AM
I hope it is taken care of soon.
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rtw777
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:35:28 AM
What an terrible headline.
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SUV2009
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:35:04 AM
Tell the Media.
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